Genuine turquoise Agapornis fischeri?

As I mentioned in my previous articles on the bl-locus, there are breeders that have (most probably) the real turquoise mutation in Agapornis fischeri (for a good order sake not the combination of blue1 and blue2 or a sapphire). Problem (as usual) was that we needed more test mating and proves before we could drawn substantiated conclusions. (You all know our policy). Now we believe we can confirm it is most probably a true turquoise.

What is the difference with a Sapphire bird? Sapphire is a blue bird with a few green spots (mainly on the underpart of the body) and an orange forehead and white mask.

These turquoise birds have a pink/yellow shade on the entire mask. The wings are more greenish and a blueish body (it looks 100% similar the with the genuine turquoise Agapornis roseicollis).

Here a few pictures:

Here a combination with dominant pied, see the psittacin remains in the feathers

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15 comments

  1. Sir, you did it again. I believe there are a few internet dickheads that need to apology now. (At least as they have the decency )

  2. Dear Anthony, I had my first pair of birds when I was nine years old, so that’s exactly 50 years ago and I’ve seen the evolution in lovebirds mutations. I cannot blame younger enthusiasts for not having this experience / knowledge. Most are so passionate and have an opinion, an opinion that they want to substantiate in every way and preferably as quickly as possible. I can’t blame them for wanting to go faster than possible. I may have been like that too.
    It is just a pitty that some have let themselves be influenced by people with personal feuds and therefore did not want to believe us or cooperate with us. Anyway, it is what it is, and I am happy that we have a clear answer now AND keep in mind: there are many other fun things in life than just birds..

  3. Hi, I can see the similarity with the turquoise roseicollis, but now we have the rename the “old” turquoise fisheri, the so called “yellow face”. But I’m confident that will happen too.

      1. Dirk, I know but a lot of breeders (including me) called this so called yellow face a turquoise. Now I’m sure it’s not.

  4. Hi, if i cross 2 fischeries, Green Wildtype X Green Misty are the 50 % youngsters is still a pure green wildtype?

  5. Ik vrees dat de verwarring nu zal beginnen. De BVA heeft het goed in orde (hoe zou dat komen ?) In jullie nomenclatuur en standaarden gebruiken jullie netjes blauw1blauw2. onze bond gebruikt daar (zo te zien verkeerdelijk) nog turquoise.
    We hebben dus blauw1blauw2, sapphire en nu een echte turquoise?
    Hoe gaan we deze onderscheiden?

  6. Hello Dirk, I congratulate you for this achievement, which will remove many problems among the breeders of lovebirds, especially in agapronis fishery.

    My question to you how many gene do we have in blue locus and what is sapphire?? is it turquoise or another blue gene.

  7. Thank you,
    Sapphire is absolutely not a turquoise. I told this already more than 5 years ago.
    All these mutations are somehow connected /related to blue1 and/or blue2. Million dollar question still remains: what is the interaction/relation between all these mutations (genes?), are they allelic or is it something else? (read my article in BVA-International journal from April 2019).
    Believe me, we are working very hard on this subject in our Agapornis Genome Study, because this is THE ONLY WAY to give a correct answer on this question. But this will take a lot of time and will cost a lot of blood, sweat and tears AND MONEY.

  8. You are absolutely right, Mr Dirk. When the first yellow faces were imported from America I also had such a turquoise. I continued breeding with the birds with a more approved mask, but these turned out to be blue1blue2 afterwards.
    Fortunately, you have always maintained that these pure turquoise are also available in aviculture. There must be more splits available in some aviaries. Can we recognize the splits?

    1. That is possible, I saw the first one about 5 / 6 years ago. How to recognize the splits will be not easy, we have combinations with blue1 and combinations with blue2. Now we know that combinations with or blue1 or blue2 (not sure which one) give us birds with an more orange mask colour. There is also a faire change that combinations with sapphire will also give a colour in between, but this we still have to test.

  9. I have two turquoise fisheri. Are difficult to breed with green. Combinations with blue are stronger.
    Any advice?

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